Seeding in CXC Cup

We are getting many questions on seeding in CXC Cup. Here are the seeding rules for CXC Cup that have been given to the race OCs: 

 U16 Seeding:

  • In Midwest only Junior National Qualifier, racers will be seeded by the following (in priority order):
  1. USSA Points
  1. Midwest JNQ Points
  1. USSA General licenses or otherwise unpointed CXC members

If a combined Midwest/Great Lakes Qualifier racers will be seeded by the following (in priority order):

1. USSA Points
2. USSA General licenses or otherwise unpointed CXC members

U18/U20/U23/USSA or FIS Licensed Seniors/Masters:

1. Seeding based on best of USSA, FIS or CFIS(College Points
2. USSA General licenses or otherwise unpointed CXC member U18/U20/U23/Senior will be assigned 990 points

Thus far we have been having joint JNQs, thus U.S. Ski & Snowboard points are the only seeding method we have available. All others are in the random draw. 
We should all be advising athletes that if they are concerned about seeding, anybody who is going to want to be seeded properly needs to purchase a competitor license. Taking the route of not purchasing a U.S. Ski & Snowboard license has the consequence of not being seeded with the U.S. Ski & Snowboard licensed skiers.

Everybody has to understand that it is hard on race organizations and the timing companies when the athletes who want good seeding are not purchasing U.S. Ski & Snowboard Competitor Licenses prior to Oct. 15 if a renewal or prior to registering for the races if a first time license purchase.




1. U.S. Ski & Snowboard NRL pointed skiers/FIS pointed skiers: seed groups TBD based upon number of registrants;

2. U.S. Ski & Snowboard competitor licensed and no NRL points, USBA licensed skiers and no U.S. Ski & Snowboard NRL points: seed groups TBD using Midwest JNQ points as a preference and then random draw those with our points; A ~1 minute gap;

3. CXC only competitor members with Midwest JNQ points: seed groups TBD using Midwest JNQ points.

4. CXC only competitor members with out JNQ points: randomly drawn; A ~2 minute gap (provided the race jury does not have concerns with this group impeding or obstructing lapping skiers);

5. Anybody else participating in an “open” class not officially part of the CXC Cup, “Open” racers are not eligible to move on to sprint heats, as sprint heats are CXC Cup events requiring CXC Membership.


Joe Haggenmiller
CXC Director of Athletics

Entry Fees And Costs To Put On A Race

This week, I want to address race org feedback and the work that goes into any ski race, but specifically a CXC Cup race.

For starters, the feedback I am generally looking for when discussing a race weekend is feedback that a good race organization can reasonably take action on.  Things like the schedule, course control, adjustments in grooming, placing of course marshals, race lengths, rules that were not followed, etc.  Feedback that is achievable is what we need.  We had a request for wax trucks.  Asking for ventilated wax trucks to come in for a weekend is in theory a step forward and an improvement.  But, in reality, such a request is not helpful as 1. there are not any such trucks available in our area, and 2. such a request is cost prohibitive with the resources we have as a region.  I will filter feedback such as this from our race orgs, as we do not live in Utopia.

After the Gitchi Gami Games, I got some feedback that race prices were too high and an impediment participation.  I understand that race entry fees have been drifting up, but so have the costs to put on a race.

Here is a sample conservative  CXC Cup Super JNQ Budget:

Revenue Total:  $23,400
Entry Fees – JNQ – 2 races – $60 x 200 – $12,000
Entry Fees – JNQ – 1 race – $35 x 20 – $700
Entry Fees – NCAA College – 2 races – $60 x 60 – $3600
Entry Fees – Youth Cup – 2 races – $30 x 60 – $1800
Entry Fees – Youth Cup – 1 race – $15 x 20 – $300
Entry Fees – Open – 2 races – $60 x 20 – $1200
Entry Fee Total – $19,000 from 370 racers Youth Cup to College
CXC Support (Consulting, Race Supplies) – $3000 value in kind/trade
Lodging Support – 4 rooms x 2 nights ($100/rm night) – $800
Concessions Sales – $500 (May be done by a local non profit partner and thus be $0)
Expenses Total:  $22,550
Race Administration Total – $9850
USSA/FIS Sanctioning and Head Taxes – $1500
Postage, Phone, Copier, Paper, etc. – $300
Registration and Data Services – $500
Advertising and Promotion – $250
Web Services – $250
Awards/Medals – $500
Competitor Gifts – $1000 (could be CXC merchandise such as a ski ties)
Coaches Meeting Refreshments – $250
Volunteer Hospitality, Refreshments and Meals – $1500
Volunteer Appreciation – $1000 (could be CXC merchandise such as a buff)

Comp Lodging – (TDs, Timers, VIPs) 4 rooms x 2 nights ($100/rm night) – $800
TD Expenses (TD and Asst TD) Total – $450
Travel – $150
Per Diem – $300 ($50/day NRL, $100/day FIS)

Race Production Total – $13,500
Site Use Fees – $5000
(Grooming Expenses/Daily Trail Passes/Snowmaking Costs/Etc.)
Contracted Timing Services – $4000
Walkie Talkie Radio Rentals – $200
Portable Toilets – $1500
Tent Rentals – $800
Heater Rentals – $500
Generator Rentals – $1500
Miscellaneous Total – $750
Profits/Losses Total:  +$~850

As you can see, there is not a lot of money to be made on hosting these events.  Yes, sponsorship could help make an event very profitable.  But, most of our race orgs are having a hard time simply getting comped rooms for the TDs, so expecting our race orgs to find local sponsorship in the thousands of dollars to support a CXC Cup race is unrealistic.  Some may look at the race production fees and say that they may not be necessary for many of our venues.  This may be true, but is only true because these venues have invested in the infrastructure to host races at a high level, and their investment should not be denied a return.

I will support our race orgs being able to be profitable for a race weekend.  At best, it is a very good weekend for our race orgs to turn a profit of $5000 for their non profit organizations.  When you figure that to make this $5000, it takes more than 60 volunteers on average 8+ hours a piece, and a core of race Chiefs that are putting in countless hours in preparation, this is easily a 1000 hours or more of work, or $5/hr if an org has a good weekend.  There are also many weekends where race orgs break even or raise less than $2000.  For the amount of work going into these events, pricing seems on the mark to me.

There have also been questions about who we are subsidizing.  If you look at race entry fees, you will see we have given youth a lower price point.  Organizationally, CXC has determined that youth are the group we want to encourage with a lower entry fee and reduce the barrier to entry.  It is our feeling organizationally that the junior ages on up should all be paying the same rate, whether they are a novice high schooler making their first jump into regional racing or they are more experienced and hoping to make the podium.  At the end of the day, the costs to host a race per racer are the same for the novice or the expert.

With respect to CXC head taxes, it is not cost free for CXC to be involved in sanctioning the races, scoring the races, promoting the races, assisting with data management, advising local race orgs, etc.  Services have costs to them that need to be accounted for and the head tax is the best way to make sure those who are getting the benefits are sharing in the burden of paying for these services.

The bottom line is  I do not disagree with the thoughts that a CXC Cup race weekend is no cheap endeavor.  However, this being said, the difference between an entry fee along the lines of $30 for a weekend as opposed to the current $60 for a weekend does not to me seem to be the limiting factor of participation when you look at the other costs of transportation, lodging, meals and waxing.  (Even if the weekend was $10-$20 for entries, I don’t see the entry fee being the limiting factor.)  The days of waxing a single pair of skis with a limited number of hydrocarbon glide waxes and one line of kick waxes out of the car trunk, skiing on a trail set with a snowmobile/track sled and the races being hand timed are in the nostalgic past.  The sport has changed and modernized at a significant increased cost to participate.  That is the world we live in, we can either resist it with little success or we can understand it and do our best to deal with it and move forward.

I hope our club leadership can join me in this understanding, pass this reality along to our membership (both your local club’s and also CXC’s in general), and support our race organizations who are working hard to provide high quality events for a small return to their organizations.

Joe Haggenmiller
CXC Director of Athletics

Coaching Staff Announced for 2018 Junior Nationals and NENSA U16 Trip

The Midwest Executive Committee wishes to thank everyone for their applications and interest in the Midwest Team and NENSA U16 trips. The following coaches have been named to the 2018 Junior National and NENSA U16 trip staffs.

2018 Junior Nationals
March 3-11 / Soldier Hollow, Midway (UT)

Piotr Bednarski – Head Coach, Loppet Nordic Racing
Chris Harvey – Trip Leader, Loppet Nordic Racing
Liz Peterson – Head Glide Wax, Endurance United
Scott Putman – Head Kick Wax, Ashwaubenon Nordic Ski Team
Kim Rudd – Loppet Nordic Racing / Armstrong High School
Julia Curry – Age Group Coach, Loppet Nordic Racing
Ted Theyerl – Age Group Coach, Chippewa Valley Nordic
Deno Johnson – Age Group Coach, Nordicwerks
Andrew Joda – Wax Tech, Loppet Nordic Racing
Thomas Kendrick – Wax Tech, MYSL/Skiwerx
Elizabeth Smith – Physical Therapist
Joe Haggenmiller – Central Cross Country Skiing

2018 NENSA U16 Championships
March 8-11 / Gore Mountain, North Creek (NY)

Kris Hanson – Trip Leader, 4591 Sports Development
Bjorn Hanson – 4591 Sports Development
Charil Reis – Rhinelander Nordic

Coaches & Clubs Update – December 6, 2017

Hello all,

I am now in the Canadian Rockies with Team CXC. It was great to connect with many of you in West Yellowstone!

I hear the Lake Superior Snow machine is kicking in up in Houghton. Conditions should be great for our inaugural CXC Cup event: our re-branded regional points races for all levels.

Remember, online registration for the Houghton (MI) event closes Tuesday at 11:59 pm.

CXC Youth Cup / CXC Junior Cup

Support Our Sport

We are in our 2017 Year End Challenge Grant. If you or any of your membership have the ability to help support us monetarily to continue to support the whole region, we would appreciate any donations going to the Challenge Grant!


As we start the racing season it may be a good time to have your athletes evaluate where they are at. Here is a Bi-Annual Goal Session Form to help you go through this process biannually with the junior and up athletes you may be working with.


The CXC Open Thanksgiving Camp had snow for most of it in Ironwood and Mr. Fun, Bruce Manske, had a blast getting the attendees out on the trails.

The CXC Open Camp in Cable over Winter Break (December 27-31) is coming quick. If you have an athlete that would like to register, please direct them to sign up.

Clubs, if you have not yet joined CXC, we would still welcome you.  Don’t miss out on the great benefits we offer.


Joe HaggenmillerFor further information regarding this Clubs & Coaches Update, contact CXC Director of Athletics – Joe Haggenmiller.

Coaches and Clubs Update – November 8, 2017

The December CXC Cup event web pages are live. To get full info on the events, register, etc. – follow the links below.



High School Programs who are CXC Clubs, a training plan blue print for your programs is in draft form. It should go final next week.

If you would like a copy, please send a request to


CXC Open Camps in Ironwood (MI) over Thanksgiving Break and Cable (WI) over Winter Break are filling. If you have an athlete that would like to register, please direct them to sign up.


West Yellowstone has been grooming with the “big rig”.  Get the latest grooming reports here:

Keep thinking cold thoughts and doing your snow dances as we are nearing times where snow here in the Central Region can now stay for the season once the ground freezes.  Let’s hope for the best.

For further information regarding this Clubs & Coaches Update, contact CXC Director of Athletics – Joe Haggenmiller.


Coaches and Clubs Update – November 3, 2017

Many areas in the region have seen enough snow to put on the skis and slide across golf courses fields and a few very well manicured trails. If you have been enjoying snow accumulation in your area, good for you and good luck continuing to enjoy it.

For those who have not had lasting accumulation, the word is that West Yellowstone is getting snow. If you are heading to West for the ski festival, the days are quickly counting down.

We wish you safe travels and great skiing when you get there!

Recently, I have been seeing many of you club leaders as I have traveled the region.  Some have asked for more information about our club or team membership.

This week I would like to focus the update on reminding each of your clubs/teams of the benefits of being a CXC member club or team.

Having your club or team a part of our organization helps us all be able to pull together in the same direction to improve our sport. Here are a few of our benefits:

  • Club development assistance and consultation, including a CXC “Hotline” (call or e-mail me to brainstorm and discuss issues facing your club)
  • Access to Central Cross Country Skiing and U.S. Ski & Snowboard Branded Training Apparel Including Club Logo
  • Use of CXC Center of Excellence High Performance Opportunities
  • Complimentary American Birkebeiner entries for your Club’s Certified Coaches
  • Fundraising swag packages
  • Regular Club news updates


Which benefits may be of great value for each club may differ, but all clubs will find befits in membership.

For those who have already become club members, thank you! For those of you who are part of a club or team who is not yet a CXC Member, we would encourage you to give CXC membership serious thought and join our ranks.

Whether you are a varsity HS team, a new community club or a long established thriving club we want you to be a part of what we are doing at CXC. 

For further information regarding this Clubs & Coaches Update, contact CXC Director of Athletics – Joe Haggenmiller.

Coaches and Clubs Update – October 26, 2017

Hello all:

Late fall is upon us as the days are shortening. As you are rollerskiing with your teams stay safe in these grey low light days. Demand your athletes are wearing High Vis clothing.

Our fall Wayne Fish Coaches Education Conference was well attended and well received. We will look forward to next year’s conference building upon the quality of this conference. It was great for us to get a chance to talk with many of you!


To supplement the Wayne Fish Symposium, we have one mini-clinic this Sunday, October 29th in Duluth at Spirit Mountain’s Grand Avenue Chalet from 11am to 4pm.

CXC’s Supplemental Coaches Ed Clinics thus far have been both well attended and well received. Don’t miss out on this last opportunity to examine and improve your coaching skills and keep your US Ski and Snowboard certifications up to date with continuing education.


Lastly for you this week, member clubs, if you have a fundraising event coming up and want some CXC swag, please let us know and we will work to put together a CXC fundraising SWAG package for you to use as you see fit. This is another way we are trying to make your membership much more valuable than the cost.

For those going to the Yellowstone Ski Festival, I will see you on the trails in a bit less than a month, – Joe Haggenmiller

Joe Haggenmiller | Director of Athletics
U.S. Ski & Snowboard – Central Cross Country Skiing
Community Olympic Development Program

Phone: (906) 281-1214